It has been more than a full month since the APA began rolling out its new webpage. And guess what? It's still not fully functional. And it still is embarrassingly clunky and disordered.
Who takes more than a month to update a webpage? Who takes down the old webpage before the new one is ready to go? What the hell are they doing?
I love how proud they are of the fact that it's now possible to pay dues online (welcome to the 1990s, guys!). You can't stop progress.
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Had just come from the site before reading this post and had just commented that the site was "a piece of shit." I've seen undergrad projects for a class grade that look better, much less professionally designed sites. Who are the rubes in charge of contracting this job and are they interested in some land deals? I need the money.
"I've seen undergrad projects for a class grade that look better, much less professionally designed sites."
From my own experience, I've seen FAILED undergrad projects for a class grade that look better...
Hell, look at the aestheticians' website: http://aesthetics-online.org
It's not exactly rocking the CSS and Web 2.0 and all that nonsense, and of course you'd expect the AESTHETICS people to have a nice looking site, but couldn't the APA have at least hired the same folks? Would that really have been so hard?
of course you'd expect the AESTHETICS people to have a nice looking site
that's theoretical aesthetics, not applied aesthetics.
Well then, theoretically, they ought to have a nice site.
The "Advertise" link on the bottom bar of the new APA website takes me to a page that, when loaded, comes up on my browsing tab as "Jobs fo Philosophers Ad Info" [sic]. Even the spelling is po.
And finding the JFP is like an online easter egg hunt. APA FTW!!!
Anon 12:50:
Shouldn't that be 'poo'?
12:50 here, @CTS: Poo, too, and po, fo sho.
Has anybody found the JFP after all? I've been searching in vain yesterday and today.
... and once someone finds the JFP, could they let those of us without APA memberships know how (without contributing to the maintenance of that organization).
The JFP is helpfully filed under "Resources" -> "Member Resources." You won't see the second link unless you're logged on. I suspect this has contributed to the "difficulty" of finding the JFP for some, as (in the one thing they did right) there was an announcement on the front page for a while showing where it was. We may be philosophers, but we're not so technically incompetent that two successive link-clicks proves too obscure, are we? Let's just admit that most of the people "searching" for the JFP weren't actually logged on, hm? I hate the new website as much as anyone, but the JFP actually isn't THAT well-hidden.
Yeah well I'm a member and when I'm logged on I don't get to see "member resources" and when I try to get to a JFP page via a site search it says "Error: You don't have permission to access this content." Real glad I paid those dues
I suspect the "Member Resources" link does not appear unless you have paid your annual fees...
@1:12
I cannot reproduce the error.
Not only am I having the same problem with not being able to see "Member Resources" after logging on, but it has now been two weeks since I emailed the person in charge of memberships about this issue. If I need to renew my membership, I will do so if that is the only way to see the JFP. Have I heard back from this person? Of course not.
Departments should simply advertise on Inside Higher Ed and The Chronicle. I imagine it would be less expensive to do so, and we could put an end to relying on the APA's ineptitude.
I think you're being way too hard on the APA. Have you checked out the video games section of the site? The whole thing has been dipped in awesome sauce.
I can't find neither the JFP page nor the Join page. It's okay to pay... I don't mind (well, I do.. but...)... is there a good soul who can post the links to these two pages?
Here's my link that likely won't work for you:
http://www.apaonline.org/APAOnline/Resources/Member_Resources/APAOnline/Members_Only/Member_Resources.aspx?hkey=1d64000e-1999-4702-a157-fdd9ed43ecce
If it does, please pay my dues.
It's worth repeating with a little more detail: Log in, then click "Resources" in the ridiculous non-differentiated pale blue sub-header (. Then you will see the "Member Resources" link in the left menu (in the slightly darker pale blue box on left). If you look for it in the header, or in any of the links on the main part of the page, you won't find it. Then, finally you will see the various versions of the JFP linked in the main body of the page.
looks like that link might have been cut. try this
10:27 again. Hm. Link is upgefucked and I can't get blogger to cooperate. Sorry.
That was pretty funny Glaucon
What would it take to get the APA under new management for its day-to-day operations? Who has the authority to fire and hire? Perhaps a formal grassroots petition needs to be started?
Whatever it would take, it's high time action was taken! The situation with the APA is beyond absurd.
I also think that we need to take action. C'mon, that new website is such crap. Why not start a petition?
A petition? Hang on, there, Tex - let's not just jump right to something we can't take back. We all want to come out of this alive. "A petition," he says, like it ain't no thang. Damnyankees.
Try this visual guide to finding the Member Resources link. If you're logged in and the Member Resources link is missing from that darker blue box on the left, then the APA has a real problem.
I don't think just anyone is in a position to take action about the APA. But some are (for example, the current division presidents ). And its high time those who are did.
For me, the all-time classic APA moment came a couple of years ago when they held the Pacific in Vancouver. The idiots came all the way from Delaware to collect their fees (well, some of them actually came from Delaware), but they neglected to work out a way to accept Canadian money. Even though it was, you know, in Canada and all that.
wv: woonmop
So, since understanding the details of an exchange rate -- or having someone else determine what the three fees would come to in Canadian dollars and writing them up for the fucktards behind the desk -- was too much for them, they just straight-up demanded that anyone paying cash go out and find US currency somewhere (at the dismal rates of exchange one finds at currency exchanges for tourists) so that we could attend the APA in our own city.
Beyond the stupidity of the whole thing, I was particularly impressed by the stubborn-headedness exhibited by those behind the desk who just calmly repeated to the throngs of people who threatened the APA with legal action, etc. that it's an American organization so it makes sense that it should only accept American currency from Canadians while it does business in Canada.
Throngs of Canadians at a hotel, and they didn't have credit cards. That's... interesting.
Philosophers are so fucking weird.
"Try this visual guide to finding the Member Resources link. If you're logged in and the Member Resources link is missing from that darker blue box on the left, then the APA has a real problem."
Logged in. No link. The APA has a real problem.
Is there anybody who has paid this year's membership fees and cannot see the link?
Same here, I logged in but no link.
I sent various emails to all the contacts in the website but nothing (you know, I need a job and it's about time to look at the JFP page...).
I'm willing to pay the membership, but I can't find out how.
Anon 8:00pm: Re: sending emails asking about this, I have had the same damn results - no replies. This organization has somehow become even more of a joke than it already was.
word verification: chhap, n. an extra large pair of chaps, often worn by overweight cowboys, bikers and film studies professors on weekends.
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