Waiting on line in a coffee shop:
Frat Guy #1 [explaining how great the prior evening's party was, until... ]: Then Eddie showed up with his girlfriend. Man, she's such a fucking bitch. Everything went downhill from there. I wish someone took that bitch outback and beat her with a stick... at least punch her in the face.
Frat Guy #2: Ummm.... dude....
#1: Shit, man... I'm sorry. Why can't I remember that she's... uh... your sister? I was just kidding anyway. It was totally cool....
#2: Let's just go.
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Wait, I thought Spiros himself is supposed to be a frat boy.
Wow, Spiros really gets spanked and embarrassed on what 8:32 linked to.
@anon 2:17
There are three separate issues:
1. Whether someone has claimed Spiros ought to be embarassed
2. Whether Spiros in fact ought to be embarrassed
3. Whether Spiros is in fact embarassed
And not only only does the fact that somone has claimed Spiros ought to be embarassed not entail that he ought to be, neither the putative fact that he ought to be, nor any claim to that effect, gives grounds to suppose that he is in fact embarassed. Embarassment, after all, is unbecoming of a cranky jerk.
3:41: but it's still an awesome blog entry. "I am a lover of wisdom and you are an adolescent frat boy."
Nyah nyah! Frat boy! Adolescent! Name-caller!
@3:41:
You are ignoring common usage of the word "embarrassed". True, there is a sense of the term according to which whether someone X is embarrassed depends entirely on X's assessment of his situation. E.g., we say things like: "When I realized I was acting like an immature frat-boy, I felt embarrassed."
But there is another sense, according to which whether someone X is embarrassed is independent of X's own assessment of his situation. Thus, we say things like, "Eli Manning embarrassed Tom Brady in the superbowl last night." Or, "The commentator really embarrassed the speaker by leveling that objection, though the speaker seemed either not to care or not to notice."
When I say that Spiros was, in fact, embarrassed - I am using the word in the second sense.
@anon 4:24 (&2:17)
embarassed (second sense) = ought to be embaraseed (first sense)
@PA:
4:24 here. Perhaps it is true that if you are embarrassed in the second sense, then you have a normative reason to feel embarrassed. And perhaps someone who violated this (e.g. someone who was made an embarrassment of, yet did not feel embarrassed) is guilty of some form of irrationality. Still, the relation between 1) being embarrassed in the second sense, and 2) that I ought to feel embarrassed in the first sense, is not one of identity as you imply with your use of the = sign.
I claim of Spiros that he was made an embarrassment of, i.e. that he was embarrassed in the second sense. Therefore, maybe he ought to feel embarrassed in the first sense. Or, maybe since he is a cranky jerk (as you suggest) he has an overriding reason to ignore the fact that he was made an embarrassment of and thereby not feel embarrassed.
4:24, it's hard to imagine how one can judge that Spiros was embarrassed in your sense ("made an embarrassment of") by a critique that she/he/they never responded to. This especially is the case when the critique is not all that forceful or clever. It's like saying that A "beat up" B when B didn't bother to show for the fight.
But maybe you're just trying to increase traffic to the site you link to.
"made an embarrassment of"?
It's pretty clear that the word you're looking for is 'owned'.
And the word I'm looking for is 'tool'.
@ anon 2:17, 4:24, and 6:03
There is another normative sense of "embarrassed" which I have heretofore overlooked and which you might have in mind. In this sense, the person who does the embarrassing ought to feel shame for his/her actions. Your own example, "Eli Manning embarrassed Tom Brady in the superbowl last night," is a case in point. After all, one thing you're not supposed to do in sports is cause embarrassment to your opponents.
@2:17 - Yeah..... Because there's nothing frat boyish about trying to pick a fight with someone by calling them names intended to be insulting ("frat boy!") in an environment where one is surrounded by likeminded others and in which one can hence control the ensuing conflict.
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