Monday, May 21, 2012

Department Meeting Rule #3

If you're untenured, you don't have to take the minutes.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hmmm: why would the untenured take the minutes of the faculty meeting?

Anonymous said...

I did. Because I was. This is the third planet from the sun right?

Anonymous said...

What's worst is when the untenured *woman* is asked to take the minutes!

Spiros said...

9:08: Wait for Rule #1....

Anonymous said...

"Hmmm: why would the untenured take the minutes of the faculty meeting?"

Because they aren't the ones sleeping?

Anonymous said...

Exact opposite here - the most junior hire has to take minutes, whoever he or she may be.

Anonymous said...

3:!9-- isn't there a concern that this places untenured people in a bad position? They have to report what gets said, and sometimes people don't like the way their statements get reported....

Anonymous said...

Departmental management rule #99: don't let the untenured sit on tenure committees

Anonymous said...

8pm: if at your university there's no rule that absolutely prohibits untenured from serving on tenure comms, you're at a shit university.

Anonymous said...

Ah. yes. I remember arriving at my first TT job and being informed that the newbie took the minutes, and that I had better be thorough, because there were lots of tensions in the dept. and everyone wanted to be sure that there was a record of what that other guy said. Oh, yes, good times. Glad to have that fucked up place in my rear-view.

Anonymous said...

8:00pm here: yep I sure am at shithole university!!!

Anonymous said...

We don't bother to take minutes anymore at our meeting.

Anonymous said...

3:51 - Never thought of that, though it's a legitimate point. Not much of a worry here, because we have a very easy-going kind of department where we all like each other and get along reasonably well (all things considered). Somewhere else, though... yeah. I see the problem.

Anonymous said...

Is my dept. so rich, or yours so poor, that y'all don't have administrative staff to take the notes?

Anonymous said...

Why not just audio/video record the meetings? If there's supposed to be an official record of what was said, isn't that the safest way to go, and one which wouldn't put junior faculty in a potentially awkward spot?

Anonymous said...

Not a good idea -- there are some things you might not want to put in the official record, e.g. if you're worried about an administrator poking around.

Garret Merriam said...

As the only untenured member of my department I say HERE, HERE!